{"id":261,"date":"2015-05-13T21:09:50","date_gmt":"2015-05-13T21:09:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thomasgardnerofsalem.wordpress.com\/?p=261"},"modified":"2015-05-13T21:09:50","modified_gmt":"2015-05-13T21:09:50","slug":"world-wide-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tgsoc.org\/tech\/2015\/05\/13\/world-wide-mind\/","title":{"rendered":"World wide mind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The title comes from the &#8220;World Wide Mind&#8221; project (see <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/w2mind.org\/\">w2mind.org<\/a><\/strong>). How this project comes up and how it relates to the work of TGS, Inc. deserves some attention (see below). As an aside, I have already <img decoding=\"async\" class=\" alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/w2mind.org\/Icons\/w2m.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/>mentioned <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/thomasgardnerofsalem.blogspot.com\/search?q=truth+engineering\">truth engineering<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0in the context of our intent. Too, referring to the w2mind project can help bring out for discussion some of the nuances suggested by writing of the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/7-oops-7.blogspot.com\/2010\/09\/facebook-as-metaphor.html\">metaphor(s)<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0(as I see them) of Facebook.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aside:<\/strong> Genealogy, and related historical views, will continue to have a growing technical flavor. As such, there are (will be) issues that need to be attended to. The first step is recognizing the need; this blog will have such a requirement (which will be, hopefully, more clear as we proceed). Putting the head in the sand is not the way to go (as <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/thomasgardnerofsalem.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/on-blogs.html\">some seem to have done<\/a><\/strong>).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Okay, now to the rest of the story. I first ran across Mark Humphrys&#8217; work some time ago. To date, I mostly just looked at relationships that he documented as these popped up when I was doing queries. Then, I found his <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/humphrysfamilytree.com\/famous.descents.html\">famous people work<\/a><\/strong> to be interesting (see <a href=\"http:\/\/famouskin.com\/\"><strong>Kinnexions<\/strong><\/a>, too) and have looked at the lines that he provides from time to time. Notice that he incorporates the work of others.<\/p>\n<p>Today, I noticed the support request and followed down the links to the contact page. I noticed that he provided his <a href=\"http:\/\/computing.dcu.ie\/~humphrys\/\"><strong>professional page<\/strong><\/a>. That is where I found the w2mind work mentioned. Too, his original proposal was in 2001. My start of the truth engineering work was 2000. The common theme is AI (which is a broad in scope but ought to be on everyone&#8217;s radar in some way or another &#8211; these systems that are being provided free are laden with features based upon techniques that have evolved from the work of a whole lot people or a long period of time). Mark has been on the Internet since 1987 (I remember doing protocols\/logic back in the earlier part of the 80s).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>But, Mark also mentions his history and genealogy work on his professional page which indicates that he has been at this for awhile (versus my six years &#8211; computing? for that, several decades). It is interesting that Mark has morphed a brick-wall into a competition (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Citizen_science\"><strong>citizen science<\/strong><\/a>?).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Now, his mention of several important subjects requires some attention. Say, on his page, his\u00a0<strong>Turing Test <\/strong>and\u00a0<strong>AI in general<\/strong>\u00a0comments. Then, he goes into\u00a0<strong>Computers and the Internet<\/strong> from which we see his thoughts on pre-IP usage (<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/computing.dcu.ie\/~humphrys\/net.80s.html\">BITNET<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>&#8211; all sorts of access methods were available before IP was let go so as to allow the <a href=\"http:\/\/7-oops-7.blogspot.com\/2010\/06\/apps-and-oops.html\"><strong>wild west to emerge<\/strong><\/a>, again &#8211; which let DOD get bit a few times and by a <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/truthengineering.blogspot.com\/2015\/02\/trojan-hardware.html\">few ways<\/a><\/strong> &#8211; sheesh).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I like that he comes (came) to the <a href=\"http:\/\/computing.dcu.ie\/~humphrys\/wikipedia.html\"><strong>defense of Wikipedia<\/strong><\/a> (my claim is being the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:JMSwtlk\"><strong>oldest Wiki&#8217;an<\/strong><\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>All in all, there are lots of things to discuss; Thomas&#8217; life (<a href=\"http:\/\/thomasgardnerofsalem.blogspot.com\/search\/label\/Backbone\"><strong>Backbone<\/strong><\/a> series) will be a central feature to a lot of discussion. But, too, technical experience will be grounded on ourselves (even when we have near-singularity &#8211; arguable point that needs attention), our historical natures, and phenomenal aspects yet to be defined such as to meet &#8220;objective&#8221; needs. Besides discussion, we at the TGS, Inc. consider <a href=\"https:\/\/thomasgardnerofsalem.wordpress.com\/2015\/03\/12\/gardner-questions\/\"><strong>research<\/strong><\/a> as central to our purpose, including, among a lot of other things, helping to scope how information\/knowledge (of things related to our selves &#8211; many senses) can map to wise technocratic existence and <a href=\"http:\/\/thomasgardnerofsalem.blogspot.com\/2014\/03\/a-new-science.html\"><strong>better science<\/strong><\/a> as it pertains to human affairs.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>In short, a type of juxtaposition is necessary (convolution, to boot) in several domains. One issue, or the core thing, will involve a more proper (yes) perspective of humans and what they bring to the table (say, perhaps, motivated by reading Canfield &#8211; the soul soup guy &#8211; but by no means with his ideas as coach&#8217;d material &#8211; autodidact implies, in this case, mentor-free).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The title comes from the &#8220;World Wide Mind&#8221; project (see w2mind.org). How this project comes up and how it relates to the work of TGS, Inc. deserves some attention (see below). As an aside, I have already mentioned truth engineering\u00a0in the context of our intent. 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